2002 November 22 Friday
Romania Big Source Of Criminal Hacking

StrategyPage.com has an interesting article on Romanian web hackers:

With only .3 percent of the world's population, a quarter of the attacks on Honeynet sites in the first six months of this year came from Romania.

The Honeynet they refer to is Honeynet.org.

Its a shame the Romanians don't have anything more constructive to do with their time.

Posted by Randall Parker at November 22, 2002 08:36 PM
Comments
meister said at May 2, 2003 4:48 AM:

I'm a Hacker , a Romanian hacker i just wont to seek for Knowledge , i'm a WHITE HAT hacker , but why everibody in the whole WORLD think as Romania as a country without security experts & other genius in IT ?

this is what i think :

GANDURILE MELE

It's nice to be important…but is more important to be nice
Meister


Noi suntem HACKERI viata noastra incepe odata cu descoperirea calculatorului


*ai naibii copii toata ziua se joaca


Dupa care continua cu descoperirea INTERNETULUI , o portita spre alta lume , o evadare din banalitatea vietii ; Noi incercam sa exploram spre a descoperii lucruri cat mai interesante si nu incercam sa patrundem in sisteme pentru a le strica , ci pentru a le intelege arhitectura pentru a le descoperii slabiciunile prin care se poate patrunde ocolind normele securitatii…


*ai naibii copiii sunt toti la fel


Ne numiti CRIMINALI pentru ce , pentru faptul ca suntem curiosi ? Singurele crime de care ma consider vinovat sunt CURIOZITATEA si faptul ca sunt suprem din punct de vedere psihic , tuturor celor care ma numesc CRIMINAL.


*ai naibii copii de ce au o minte sclipitoare ?


HACKERII au facut internetul ceea ce este astazi , HACKERII au crea UNIX-ul , HACKERII adevarati , nu cei care-si spun asa pentru ca au stricat un sistem ; HACKERII adevarati sunt printre putinii oameni care pot intra in acest cult suprem : HACKING ; Ei sunt un grup restrans care zi de zi fac lucruri extraordinare stand noapte de noapte in fata monitorului pana ce isi ating un anumit scop…


*ai naibii copii , cresc odata cu pasiunea.


Noi nu tinem cont de religie , nationalitate , culoarea pielii sau infatisare ci doar de ceea ce gandeste fiecare


*ai naibii copii sunt mai legati decat credeam


Noi nu platim pentru serviciile oferite de cei cu profituri si asa enorme , noi facem lucrurile diferit de tine , in modul nostru original...


*ai naibii copii nu-si dau seama de pericol


puteti opri cativa dintre noi dar nu pe toti , pentru ca suntem toti la fel


*ai naibii copii…au dreptate


Sunt un HACKER si aceasta este ceea ce
gandesc ,


Meister Ruben

altrix17 said at January 22, 2004 2:40 PM:

salut!
ti-am citit informatiile de pe site si cred ca tu m-ai putea ajuta (presupun ca esti un hacker). vreau sa ma initiez in domeniul asta si nu stiu pe cine sa intreb. am vazut atatea anunturi in care toti cersesc o modalitate de a spartge o parola de mail sau alceva. eu vreau sa ma initiez singur si sa nu iau de la altul. daca ai timp trimitem ni niste link-uri de unde sa citesc si sa aflu mai multe despre haking. sper sa mai vorbim pa-pa

Scriptman said at April 30, 2004 8:21 AM:

Hai sa fim seriosi pierde si tu noptile si invata ca daca nu faci ceva kalumea pica tot, dute la munca si dormi pe masa ca toata noaptea ai testt si modificat noul cod de la KDE sau ma rog noua versiune de kernel citeste linie cu linie, intelege ce face si dupaia cad ai sa auzi peste o luna ca s-a descoperit o vulnerabilitate .. o sa zici HAHA o stiu de o luna de zile..
Dar Sa NU faci asa ceva .. corecteaza eroarea si trimit solutia comunitatii... daca intelegi acest lucru atuci vei putea sa spargi orice sistem indiferent unde este...
C0nsulta toate buletinele de securitate si nu incerca s exploateze ceace se spune acolo.. sau daca pui mana pe un cc nu te gandi ca scapi usor
Etc
Lista poate continua

ledet said at May 11, 2005 12:17 AM:

Why is that all (99.73% anyway) romanians seem to think that everybody understands their romanian-gypsy-cunt language? This is a site in english, retards! Stop wasting your time on being script-kiddies and learn english instead!

Brinkster` said at May 11, 2005 8:59 AM:

leded , just for your information, GYPSY has almost nothing to do with the romanian ppl, they-ved just settled here you idiot. they are all over the world, but indeed, the biggest pasrt of them are in romania. You stupid mother fucker!! you think you`re smart, ha? fuck OFF!!!! and i bet that the "scipt-kiddie"that posted above, it 10x smarter than you, and i also bet you discovered the PC last summer! Date-n mortii matii! :D

Name said at May 11, 2005 9:02 AM:

Faceti voi , Dregeti voi , Sugeti voi , Murit voi!
Ce drq va tot spargeti in ancheta atat ma??Ca sunteti voi hackeri si ca plm..???UN HACKER ADEVARAT NU ESTE UN BASIT CARE ZICE CA ESTE HACKER!!!!!! El dovedeste prin mijloacele lui prin limbajul hackerilor ca este NU SE LAUDA SI FACE SAITURI DEASTEA...si nu stiu ce inseamna hackeri la voi ce??? ca stiti sa umblati in root si sa flodati si alte chesti minoritare??....Aveti ma grija de voi si nu mai vorbiti aiurea si mai ales sa va laudati cu ce nu aveti!!!!!!!!!!

sugi pula said at May 11, 2005 12:23 PM:

sugi pula

Anonim said at May 12, 2005 4:52 AM:

And so it is, I'm romanian too, but I don't Fuck myself because I hacked a system . Really ... and even if I am from romania, ROMANIANS ARE STUPID .

anonymous said at May 12, 2005 2:59 PM:

Fact:

The article mentions that:

1)A very HUGE part of all hacking attemps originates from Romania

based on this we can conclude that romanians in relation to the internet are:

1) Not willing to do a ohnest job.
2) Got too much spare time.
3) gennerally act retarded.

based on the various log entries in here we can conclude that:

1) Romanians thinks that the rest of the world speak romanian / l33t speak / retard.

2) That they in gennerel should request a refund for their english lessons.

3) That the world would be a lot nicer place to life in if the romainian country was removed from the internet.


On a personal level i think:

1) That 85% of the Romanian people are lying steling no-good white trash people.

2) That russia should be bulldozing this small lameass country right about now.

patrascu said at May 13, 2005 6:16 AM:

Cand Voi Restu lumii veti fi pe 100/1 din noi !! Sa fiti fericiti.Noi Hackeri! :)) va furam banii,va spargem sistemele,va furam serverele,va spargem nasa odata la 2 luni si Fbi odata la 2 zile,ne distram pe seama voastra,nu ne ofticam prea tare cand ziceti de noi,Chiar ne bucuram!!! Hackerii! De fapt faceti voi ce facem noi stati voi Sa :)) faceti un cod sau macar sa intelegeti unul! oricare.Ma mir ca puteti sa editati poze.si apropo meister..dupa atata munca trebuie sa te mai si descarci !! cunosc sentimentu.Iti vine cateodata sa zici ce poti face intradevar!
Meister un mail ar fi :) safe_off@yahoo.com
dar poti sa imi scrii si pe patrascu@Nsa.gov
Good bey you fuckers!

Kiinder said at May 13, 2005 7:54 AM:

Care-i pe acii nana vreau si eu 1 root de scan sau de PsyBNC carei intra pe Mirc join nicku Kiinder (sa`mi dea ip port user &pass)cam atat si inca ceva _ /serverIasi.ro.eu.underchat.org _

George said at July 30, 2005 11:02 PM:

Cum se sparge parola la un email yahoo?

^^N&G said at August 12, 2005 8:10 AM:

Salut,
Si eu sunt hacker dar nu cred ca sunt mai tare ca voi din cate am citit voi stiti ceva mai mult decat mine.Eu ma ocup cu frauda stiu sa sparg un site,un cod de la o banca si sa descarc conturi,sa fac rost de cc bune si sa fac carti sa scot banii.Am doar 16 ani si am fost cautat de 3 ori de politie,am iesit din tara cu pasaprot fals am umblat peste tot in lume.Numai in Iatly nu m-am dus ca acolo sunt destiu hackerii buni.Acum sunt in Romania in V... m-am am retras dar in orice caz acum sunt protejat de un casa de copii unde m-am instutitionaliza cu ajutorul unor prieteni (bineinteles cu bani si acolo nu fac nimic deoarce sunt numai copii care stiu si ei sa fac second change (de astea slabe).
Nici o data nu am aratat ce stiu deoarce copii de aici ma cred cumint si ca nu stiu nimic despre internet.Cine are nevoie de ceva poate sa ma contacte-ze la cfrenanda@aol.com

Apocalypse_Now said at August 22, 2005 1:03 AM:

I like the non-romanians opinions on this page, just as much as I like Mr. Bean and such... These opinions represent a really stupid intelect that generates a direct (non subtle)humour. Maybe if the rest of the world were smarter that Romanians then they wold be safe and there wouldn't have been any problems at all. Unlukly for them, this is not the case; and they get really upset and pissed off when someone proves them that they are not as intelligent as they like to believe.
So the conclusion of the whole topic can be interpreted as follows:
This world is a jungle, meaning that it's all about the survival of the fittest. We can survive (romanians); let's see if you can

Victor said at September 5, 2005 10:10 AM:

I ran across this article by mistake and was amased by the stupidity of some people.
First of all i am a romanian, not a hacker... more like a script-kiddie if you'dd like... but that's not important. I saw total retards like the guy that said "2) That russia should be bulldozing this small lameass country right about now." - he probably is a russian idiot who learned english from american movies since every 2 words there's a grammar/spelling error and the fucker has the nerve to speak about romanian english skills when he writes like this :
"2) That they in "gennerel" should request a refund for their english lessons." - isn't this shit ironic or what ? and about the fucker who said that romanian is actually a gipsy language, well that just shows he's level of culture, no wonder americans are amongst the most stupid (very low I.Q. level) people in the world. (there is a study that proves this, i'm not making it up)

This being said i feel much better and i can explain the situation with more clarity. ;-)

So, why oh why do romanian people do this shit, hacking/cracking/stealing and other mischief ?
Answer is simple and complex at the same time, let me elaborate on this for a while and give you a few reasons.

1. It is a known fact that romanian people are smart (most of them) - by smart i mean a higher level of I.Q. - if you are smart enough you quickly find a decent challange in hacking !

2. Romania is a relatively poor country and like Apocalypse_now said in the post above "The world is a jungle, meaning that it's all about the survival of the fittest" ; if you would live in country where the average pay-check is 200 $ / month i'm quite sure that most of you wouldn't think twice if you had the oportunity to steal 1000 $ from some stupid american with 0 % risk of getting cought, in fact it would preaty much seem like a walk in the park with absolutly no regret for the "poor" victim ; After all, it's not as much the romanian thief's fault for stealing that money as it is the american's fault for being so stupid/naive in giving private information about he's/her's credit card to a total stranger.

3. Usually hackers/crackers are loners, people with no real life, without social skills and preaty much alone with no boyfriends/girlfriends
and the only way to experience some form of power over others is trough the internet and trough hacking ; that puts them in a possion of supreme leadership / god / allah / budha, etc. And for most of you that doesn't mean much, but for one of these guys described above, hacking into a NASA server, a U.S. Navy server or some other goverment computer is like having a multiple orgasm and being worshiped by 1000 beautiful virgins ;) (I'm telling this from own experience after hacking some nasa servers ;-) in my scripto-kidding days)

4. Other people hack in absence of a better ocupation / job / something to make time flow a little faster, you have no ideea how fast 10-12 hours seem to fly when you try to hack something =)

5. The last type of hackers, hackers which do this for a living, legit hackers or WhiteHat's if you'd like, which get payed by major software company's to try and exploit own systems and test security, these guys are 99% blackhats (illegal hackers) turned whitehats due to one or more reasons which i'm to bored to explain =)

In conclusion i hope that people who read this apreciate the time spent in writing this shit down ;-) ; i only did this because i felt obliged to shed some light into this matter since everbody else wrote absolute junk =)

I would also like to apologize for certain grammar / spelling errors that i might have missed ; i am afterall romanian and english is not my native language but at least i don't mock others like my russian comrade above =)

Final word: Altough i keep my opinion that most romanians are smart and many smart romanians are evil (not necessary a bad evil :P), i cannot deny that people like "Posted by: sugi pula on May 11, 2005 12:23 PM" are plain and simple retarded, every country has it's retards, romanian is no exception.

nutze said at September 6, 2005 12:10 AM:

e vreun hacker din sibiu? sau macar isi aminteste cineva de unu care a fost la Inginerie la calculatoare si a spart baza de date NASA? apoi astia l/au luat la el... stie careva??

mynameisnoneof yourbussiness said at November 2, 2005 7:58 AM:

Ok for starters none of you here on this particular section of the forum has not had a spelling error, so none of you can talk. Secondly yes the Romanias do need to refund their english lessons, because you are speaking at a two year olds level and your vocabularies are extremely limited.(I also hope your not using a dictionary to read this.) Secondingly the polls and statisitics taken over all the countries for IQs were'nt that accurate, they merely tested the lower-middle class. It just so happens our lower-middle class is amongst the least intellectual. However I could be looking at a different poll and Im not going to be so ignorant as to assume the one Im looking at is more correct or anything of that nature. Ok let the flame begin... Romania, hmm what a shitty country. I visited there before and I could of went to Spain for a much better and more enjoyable trip. Yes I have been to Spain. Romania is the source of multiple attempted hacks. Key word there buck-o "Attempted". Thats like saying Im the best at "Attempting" to be nice to you now. But see Im still failing, even though its an attempt.(You fucking morons.) If any country deserves a title for being full of real hackers that dont just have many attempts you should visit China some time.(Those are some hacking bastards.) China has no laws and has servers specifically set up for hackers to use freely, ok lets think hmm....Thats fucked up. Ok now Im done and you romanians can go fuck yourselves.

mynameisnoneofyourbusiness said at November 2, 2005 8:10 AM:

Ouch spelled my own name wrong xD Oh and Victor you dont need to refund your lessons. I like your vocabulary, but your spelling is well..I'll be nice and not say. See I had sucess not attempts and failures. And if you want to find me and hack me for saying all this my IP address is 69.151.116.190 I also have 69.152.216.17 (This is a challege and I hope to be flooded and have a crash or something.)Make sure that you dont use a simple stealth system, because thats sad if you think it really gives you full stealth and all i need is any little trace and I will find you and hack you.

Hunnia said at December 1, 2005 3:32 AM:

All romanians equal thief,stink,gispy ... and there is a big difference beet between hackers and thief's or scumbags.Romanians are just thiefs . They're too stupid too , 2 be hackers ...

Sa va bata ciuma , romanii puturosi si hoti...neam de mancatori de ceapa si mamaliga

HackerBerryFin said at December 2, 2005 7:05 PM:

I was Searching for knowlegde when all of a sudden I could'nt help but notice this articles about Romanian Hacking. Im a Flipino HAcker with no particular record of sort but have done some serious HAckng as well, let clarify ha HAckers by far are'nt supposed to bad unless their caught! hehehe! Now if the Romanians start hacking for no purpose at all but to seek chaos... then their using too much effort in doing something stupid that'll put their country's Honor in jeopardy. Hacking is for every one, Do it at your own Risk!!!

But for laymans sake... Dont speak Romanian unless you intend to speak only on romanians.

Robby said at January 6, 2006 3:47 PM:

Sunteti multi Hackeri in Romania dar nici unul dintre voi nu vor sa aibe un Novice. De ce tineti totul pentru voi nu va ganditi ca nimeni din lumea asta nu s-a nascut invatat. Chiar si voi ati dobandit aceste cunostinte cu sau fara ajutoa, dar mai mult cu ajutor. Vreau sa am un Maestru bun care sa ma initieze in tainele acestei meserii. Va multumesc pentru timpul acordat. Mai e o problema nu imi primeste e-mailul il scriu aici ( robby-al@ )inca odata va multumesc si astepu un Maestru adavarat...

Robby said at January 6, 2006 4:23 PM:

Imi cer scuze mi-am schimbat e-mailul din motive personale.

David Gardner said at January 16, 2006 8:19 PM:

I am not a hacker or much of a computer expert but the article did catch my eye. Since I just literally arrived from Romania couple of hours ago I have to defend it. The Romanian people are smart, wonderful and some of the most awesome people in the world. They have the world at their fingertips they just don't realize it. The greatest asset to maturity as a country happens to be the people. They have what it takes they just need some guidance on how to get there. Corruption from the top to the bottom is killing the ecomomy and the culture. If we applied American law to Romania then 90% of the country would be in jail. Why do we dumb Americans seem so easy to deceive, because we are honest, and we expect the same out of our fellow human beings. Our whole government and life is based on honesty and integrity, Romania is based on deception, and entrapment. If Romania would change their values then it everything would change and people wouldn't have to resort to underworld tatics just to supplement the 200 euro a month income. No BS guys I pratically live in Romania, you all know it is the truth.

Dan said at February 3, 2006 9:59 AM:


It is somehow interesting to read all these pile of phrases, some of them have been full of ,,Powerfull meanings``(excuse my classics)!....Hi!my name is Dan G.I. and I was born in Romania(noroc neamule)!....The fact that I`ll be writing just a few words, it`s because I never meet such an intelligent and a wise human being like David Gardner.You are a big boy David and I`am absolutely sure that you are not from Texas!....I wonder did you ever looked around your self?!.....How can you talk about your self`s, like being honest and all that crap that you described above....man!?....You do not know anything about you, about the place that you live in, and about your own history! but, you dare to look over the fence and to criticise a nation that you never even meet, a nation that for the last 60 years have been under terrible pressure, from those who play big piles of shit, and they only hope that one day they`ll have equal chances. So, don`t even try to explain about your motherfuckers, we all know who you really are and what you want, you showed it to world many times. With no anticipation, thanks.
Pt. connationali: daca va intereseaza, stiu niste stupi cu miere, dar nu ma pricep cum sa-i desfac, daca cineva cauta un asociat imi poate scrie la, danaspir@msn.com (aber, nur ich mache die entscheidungsspiel).

Tyna said at February 6, 2006 6:06 AM:

...:)...you remind me when I was 6 years old fighting with my friend..."I am smarter than you are!!!!!"..."No!!!! I am smarter than you are".
That is how you are now...GROW THE FUCK UP!!!!

Lalala said at February 9, 2006 12:27 AM:

Dumnezeule, ce zoo e aici. "Hackeri" cica :) Habar nu aveti sa va instalati un Slack dar treceti direct la "spart de servere" si "furat bani din banci" :)

gheorghe said at February 9, 2006 1:24 AM:

Goddam romanian script kiddies. The're everywhere. Stupid assholes. They hacked nasa, yeah right. Let e tell you a story. Once I knew a stupid motherfucker who said he hacked nasa. Of course i didn't belive him, but he wanted to show me. We went to a internet cafe and he loged on to the "root". It had user "test" and password "test" and a motd that said "NASA aerospace engine laboratoy bullshit bla bla bla you are being monitored bla bla bla" (I trust you know what a motd is dumbasses) and it was chrooted (I trust you know what a chroot is) and the directory was full of crap like vadim eggdrop and all that shit and directorys with names like "Salutare la toti fratii mei din berceni, rulz lol k }{}{}". So you script kiddie assholes don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Shut the fuck up!

And yes, I am a romanian.

gheorghe said at February 9, 2006 1:48 AM:

Oh, yes. And for those of you who don't know unix or linux or are stupid script kiddies,that means that was a "honeypot" someone put it on the internet, made it easily hackable user test and password test lots of lameass scripts look for this and it made it so that you can't do anything if you got in. And the stupid fuckers say they hacked nasa. Get a girlfirned. And for those of you who don't understand english: daten morti mati

Azrael said at February 13, 2006 1:12 PM:

"Why is that all (99.73% anyway) romanians seem to think that everybody understands their romanian-gypsy-cunt language? This is a site in english, retards! Stop wasting your time on being script-kiddies and learn english instead!"

Stupid cunt! If you would do some little research( do you know what's that? or I'll have to explain it? ), you would know that actually romanian is a latin language! Do you know what's that, stupid cunt? Have you ever heard of The Roman Empire? It sure was one of the greatest empires in world's history! More details? Neah, won't give you.. too much for your brain!You have my permission to fuck off!

meister -> some people are stupid and are so damn stupid they don't realize that they are stupid! You have my permission to fuck off!

"2) That they in gennerel should request a refund for their english lessons.

3) That the world would be a lot nicer place to life in if the romainian country was removed from the internet."

It would surelly be better if in GENERAL, not gennerel, you would shove your stupid smelly mouth down your ass! It would surelly be a better place if all those stupid russian hackers would remove they stupid cracks.ru and pr0n.ru sites you stupid dumb-ass fuck! You have my permission to fuck off!

"2) That russia should be bulldozing this small lameass country right about now." If you are a russian, you are plain stupid, hope you freeze to death! If you are an american I hope Russia send you a couple of bombs right on the little dotted cross ( that would be your house)! You have my permission to fuck off!

"va furam banii,va spargem sistemele,va furam serverele,va spargem nasa odata la 2 luni si Fbi odata la 2 zile,ne distram pe seama voastra,nu ne ofticam prea tare cand ziceti de noi,Chiar ne bucuram!!" indeed, you are too stupid for this world to support you. die, along with your stupid gypsy dumb-ass idiot music - aka manele ;) You have my permission to fuck off!

"because you are speaking at a two year olds level and your vocabularies are extremely limited.(I also hope your not using a dictionary to read this.) Secondingly" -> just shut the fuck up, slut! I'm a romanian and my question to you is: when was the last time you read a book you idiot? You have my permission to fuck off!

Hunnia -> You have my permission to fuck off! also permission to jump off a building has been granted! (hope your brains spread all over ;) )

Victor -> you have some problems,man! Go see a doctor or something! I mean come on you had orgasms while hacking a server( I know you just tried, don't worry nobody believed that really made it). At least get a girlfriend( one that breeds.. ) or maybe a dildo! GET SOMETHING! But don't worry, You have my permission to fuck off! ;)

P.S. I am a romanian!

Let the bashing begin!

Azrael said at February 13, 2006 1:18 PM:

Sorry had a typo there : "if all those stupid russian hackers would remove they stupid" .. Meant their stupid!

P.S. For all those who want roate,roote,rooaturi,roote and stuff like that. GET A DILDO INSTEAD!!! ( Even if you won't feel much happier with a dildo .. don't worry. You just helped humanity!)

Dan said at February 16, 2006 1:11 PM:


Grow where Tyna?...There is no way you can grow that way=

Tyna said at February 17, 2006 12:15 AM:

:)

facaletz said at August 29, 2006 1:57 AM:

We, Romanians ,have nothing from everything(i.l.caragiale)If(only if) we are so smart,why we have so stupid leadership??Whith only few flowers for sure is not spring.What u rekon??

coco said at September 20, 2006 5:06 AM:

vreau sa aflu o parola....;asta e tot...simplu,dar fara complicatii si prea multe teorii!Scurt si la subiect:se poate sau nu?!Cum?

Eu said at December 2, 2006 12:44 AM:

  Actually “the Romanian hacker” is quite stupid, indeed in Romania the average pay-check is 200 euros but this doesn’t mean everybody earns this money, a good IT specialist can earn good money if he/she is good enough, w/o needing to steal from stupid americans, it looks however that not all the “Romanian hackers” are bright enough.
  Risking your freedom just to be able to brag yourself about hacking some server doesn’t prove any kind on intelligence, just proves you are stupid, if you are telling me that you hack & steal for money this is again stupid, send me you cv and if you are good enough I can pay you 1500 euros/month starting with tomorrow.
  Yes I am Romanian and I don’t agree with shit like:
    “That russia should be bulldozing this small lameass..”
    “…should request a refund for their english lessons”
    “romanian-gypsy-cunt language”
  This proves actually how high is you IQ, probably around 60. Debating the stupidity is not my point.
  About my spelling, I don’t need to apologize, is not my native language and when I’ll see some French guy speaking/writing English w/o living in US/UK or some American speaking French w/o seeing Paris and both of them speaking perfectly I will think about apologizing.
Astept cv-uri :).

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